Transferring YG! to Groups.io

[casstk]

as requested, a new thread started. If someone can offer links to a way to transfer your Yahoo Groups to Groups.io without having to pay the $110 fee, that would be wonderful.

[martin_lists]

Thanks - yes, I should have started a new thread earlier. Looking at the amount of work needed to move everything manually, paying the annual sub would be the way forward, even if just for one year and then downgrading again afterwards.

[Wilson Logan]

Given the time scale... its definitely an option to consider

Although... I could move you to Wordpress for the same money.

[casstk]

My impression was that there was a way to move the messages over in an archival mode -- and then start  a new group by asking members to subscribe.  I am thinking of small groups that cannot afford the $100 but are willing to put in sweat equity. Personally, I think the $100 is worth every penny but if people can see a manual tutorial or set of instructions -  and how much work it will be, then they'd be more inclined to pay (of they can).

[casstk]

I understand that after Dec 14, moderators will not be able to transfer files and photos to Group.io through the automated/paid method. But will they still be able to transfer the older messages? It seems like it should be doable, even if the archive view and search capability is turned off.

[martin_lists]

This has appeared on Groups.io today:

Transfer a group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io

Very important note from Mark:  Due to the pending discontinuation of many parts of Yahoo Groups, we ask that all transfer requests be given the go ahead no later than December 1, 2019. We will not be able to guarantee any transfers submitted after that. Also note that it appears that most Photos sections are already off-line and not transferrable.

[TomH]

Wilson, I must commend you on your program, having only discovered it today in response to one of the posts I made to a couple dozen groups to alert the admins to the impending denuding of Y!Gs. There was no notice, just the website banner.

Y!G is in such a poor state now that pulling content may be a hit or miss proposition not only for your program but also group.io transfers, given that both pretend to be administrators working through the online UI. YG Photos are mostly missing from my groups. Many attachments also. And I think some files.

I've opened one groups.io group and manually uploaded the files PGO downloaded (50MB) and the HTML file that PGO exported of the message archive (16MB). Apart from photos, it is the content but not very useful.

• Gio's Files page returns no mimetype so everything is a download and image files get no preview. The original owner and date are lost as are the descriptions of each folder and file.
• The HTML message archive file is big (I see why you have a feature to break it up into chunks)  and not threaded by topic - purely chronological.

The groups.io transfer service does a much better job by converting each YG message into a Gio post and both posts and files have original poster's id and date. I expect your transfer to WordPress would do much the same for messages but I don't see how it can preserve owner and dates for files and photos.

Tom

[Wilson Logan]

You may be right about the dates for photos but the photos are stored in folders and we know who owns the folders so by extension we know who created the photos.

Cheers,

Wilson.

[txpigeon]

Gio's Files page returns no mimetype so everything is a download and image files get no preview.

That's true if you use the Files section for images.  If the images are uploaded into the Photos section, they're fully visible.  As I mentioned on the other thread, once uploaded, you can assign ownership of Photos to the proper member if they've joined the new group.  On a transfer, ownership is properly maintained unless the member that uploaded them has a bouncing email address or is no longer a member.

Duane

[TomH]

Gio's Files page returns no mimetype so everything is a download and image files get no preview.

That's true if you use the Files section for images.  If the images are uploaded into the Photos section, they're fully visible.

Image files in the Gio Photos have no permalink. Delete the first image and all the following ones' URLs are off by 1. Files in the Gio Files have a static URL ".../files/pathname/filename"

[txpigeon]

Image files in the Gio Photos have no permalink.

Yes, that's been a request for some time.  It gets very confusing (and dangerous if deleting photos).  There's still hope that it will happen, but only Mark would know when.

Duane

[UKenGB]

You may be right about the dates for photos but the photos are stored in folders and we know who owns the folders so by extension we know who created the photos.

So is there currently a way to download files and photos from a Yahoo Group and then upload them into Groups.io with correct ownership and for photos the album would be good to have too?

[Wilson Logan]

You can upload the files and photos but the ownership will be attributed to the person doing the uploading.

The only way AFAIK to maintain the correct attribution is for the original posters to join the groups.io group and re-post their own files & photos.

[UKenGB]

You can upload the files and photos but the ownership will be attributed to the person doing the uploading.

The only way AFAIK to maintain the correct attribution is for the original posters to join the groups.io group and re-post their own files & photos.

So their transfer process uses access that no-one else can?

[Wilson Logan]

Their transfer process auto-adds the original users.

Even if they're dead and buried.

Without the auto-add you have to manually invite the original members.

So only those who join can be attributed to files & folders.