I just logged into some of my groups and find a new page format. Then I tried to refresh my groups with PGO and got an Invalid Page Format error. Is it me, or is PGO choking on the new pages?
If it's PGO, bummer you have more work ahead of you, again.
Monte
I second that!
A couple of hours ago all fine, now with new look groups format and messages are giving invalid page format.
Gavin :-[
Yep. Me too!! :(
PGO download worked fine yesterday but all messages today failed with the dreaded "Invalid page format" error message.
The new look Yahoo page displayed today looks cute but Wilson is going to need time to figure out what changes they have made and to write a new version of PGO to patch the differences.
Seph
Yes, me too. PGO no longer works with the new yahoo format. Which I think is horrible, too much wasted space, poor font choices, and bad human interface.
I digress, The worst of it is that PGO "thinks" it has DLed the messages. That is to say that the messege count (number) is retrieved and updated but there is no "data" (text).
Hi Guys,
Yes, this will require a patch. I will email everyone when its ready.
Cheers,
Wilson.
Quote from: Manfred on March 26, 2005, 05:30:29 AMThe worst of it is that PGO "thinks" it has DLed the messages.
Wow! Thanks for the heads-up on this, Manfred. Resetting the message numbers in group settings wasn't a big deal, but if you hadn't commented on this, I might not have ever noticed! Thanks
David
Hi Manfred,
Thats news to me. All I get is "Invalid page". It won't let me DL anything.
Cheers,
Wilson.
Quote from: Wilson Logan on March 26, 2005, 08:09:50 PMThats news to me. All I get is "Invalid page". It won't let me DL anything.
Hi Wilson,
I think that was his point. With the new Yahoo page format, at some level PGO 'thinks' it is downloading the messages (and thus it updates the msg counter). But in reality, no messages are downloaded. Apparently there's a bug in pgo that allows the counter to update even when the response is 'invalid page format' error.
David
Hi, Yes that is correct I observe that the message count is updated yet those messages are not retrieved.
I guess one needs to manually reset all counts to the last real message or risk missing a few.
By the way, I do not get an "invalid page " error message. I'm using version .28
Manfred
Quote from: Manfred on March 27, 2005, 04:29:05 PMBy the way, I do not get an "invalid page " error message. I'm using version .28
Manfred, I'm also using .28. What error message do you get? Here's a portion of my log:
03/27/05 10:09:29 AM > Set group's info (EQ6)
03/27/05 10:09:29 AM > Authorization skipped
03/27/05 10:09:30 AM > Request number of messages
03/27/05 10:09:31 AM > Number of messages : 6039
03/27/05 10:11:35 AM > Set group's info (EQ6)
03/27/05 10:11:35 AM > Authorization skipped
03/27/05 10:11:37 AM > Request number of messages
03/27/05 10:11:38 AM > Number of messages : 6039
03/27/05 10:11:38 AM > Receive message : 6013
03/27/05 10:11:42 AM > Error : Invalid page format.
03/27/05 10:11:42 AM > Receive message : 6014
03/27/05 10:11:46 AM > Error : Invalid page format.
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David
Hi David,
Under normal circumstances, its not a bug. Basically PGO is telling you that it has attempted to DL a message but couldn't. Normally, you might get that error for one message & then be able to DL the rest. What would you want the message number counter to be then? If PGO ignored it, it'd show the real message number - 1 (or however many bad messages there were).
The situation we have now is unusual & PGO was not designed to deal with it.
Cheers,
Wilson.
Quote from: Wilson Logan on March 27, 2005, 04:49:10 PMUnder normal circumstances, its not a bug.
I see that now. And this particular situation is doubly unusual since pgo is still able to retrieve the number of messages from yahoo, despite the new page layout. Who woulda ever anticipated that?!
D
It uses parsing algorithms. Anything thats stayed the same on Yahoo will still work. I guess the way that total message numbers are displayed hasn't been changed.
Cheers,
Wilson.
I can deal with waiting on a new patch - I'm in no big hurry.
What I cannot deal with is the new format!!! I own / moderate six groups - and I'm subbed to a plethora more. I do not get all of my groups via email - the volume is too high. The look is way to distracting - too much un-needed "junk". This has me seriously considering moving my groups to a BB system - only problem is that I don't know how to set one up!
Tammi Upshaw
Quote from: wundrbee on March 28, 2005, 09:12:14 PMI can deal with waiting on a new patch - I'm in no big hurry.
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What I cannot deal with is the new format!!!
Hi Tammy,
With PGO, there's little reason to use the yahoo interface, other than to post or review web content such as files and photos. I've been listening to folks grumble about the new interface in a couple of my groups (yes, it's pretty awful!), but I can't help but to feel relieved that I have pgo as my primary method of interacting with my groups.
My 2 cents...
David
I agree with all...
- New Yahoo Groups GUI is Phewy
- PGO is the savior
The new Yahoo Groups could be a real boon for PGO... I see Wilson smiling back there... at least he will be once the patch is out.
Al
Wilson
Thanks for the speedy issue of the Beta patch for new format pages.
It has worked fine on the groups to which I belong
John Prentice
Quote from: ginahoy on March 28, 2005, 09:20:39 PM
Hi Tammy,
With PGO, there's little reason to use the yahoo interface, other than to post or review web content such as files and photos
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I can't help but to feel relieved that I have pgo as my primary method of interacting with my groups.
My 2 cents...
David
David,
Most of the I use PGO or Outlook to interact with yahoogroups, too. I have no problems there. Where the problem (i.e. grumbling:) ) comes in is that when I do web design and graphics for fellow artists and I have Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and Firefox open at the same time. I do not have the PC resources to open another program. Not even a small one. My system "chokes" if I do..
So, when I want a break I just go to the yahoogroups in Firefox. It saves time and resources. Although with the new layout of messages - I'm not so sure about the saving time part. Who knows maybe it's divine intervention of some sort telling me to stop goofing off when I'm supposed to be working:p
When I'm not "working" I use PGO as my main source of interaction between the groups that are mega-high-volume and outlook for the groups I own and moderate.
Tammi
David,
Interesting to hear you work, normally, through PGO. I would, if I could get the 'Answer mail' function to work effortlessly - but I can't. Which email program do you use? I mostly use Pegasus, perhaps that's the problem.
Denos
Got any news on the new patch?
Alex
Quote from: Denos on May 02, 2005, 08:58:19 AMDavid, Interesting to hear you work, normally, through PGO. I would, if I could get the 'Answer mail' function to work effortlessly - but I can't. Which email program do you use? I mostly use Pegasus, perhaps that's the problem.
Hi Denos,
I use OE6. I would think you could use Pegasus without a problem. I think pgo just calls the default email program and passes the email address of whichever group is currently active. Have you got "Use external mail client" checked on the Mail tab (File/Options)?
However, when using OE6 with PGO, quoting is not supported, so I still rely on Yahoo's online interface when responding to group messages. (I always quote a portion of the message I'm responding to.)
I recently disccoved PGO's internal mail client now supports quoting. However, it doesn't support authentication so I can't use it. Here's a thread on this issue:
http://pgoffline.com/forum/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=130;start=msg1589#msg1589
David